BJs Restaurants (BJRI) Q1 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

BJs Restaurants ( BJRI 4.59% )
Q1 2022 Earnings Call
Apr 21, 2022, 5:00 p.m. ET

Contents:

• Prepared Remarks
• Questions and Answers
• Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to BJ’s Restaurants, Inc. first quarter 2022 earnings release and conference call. Today’s conference is being recorded. At this time, I’d like to turn the conference over to Greg Levin, chief executive officer.

Please go ahead.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to BJ’s Restaurants fiscal 2022 first quarter investor conference call and webcast. I’m Greg Levin, BJ’s chief executive officer and president. And joining me on the call today is Tom Houdek, our chief financial officer.

We also have Greg Lynds, our chief development officer, on hand for Q&A. After the market closed today, we released our financial results for the fiscal 2022 first quarter, and you can view the full text of our earnings release on our website at www.bjsrestaurants.com. Our agenda today will start with Rana Schirmer, our director of SEC reporting, providing our standard cautionary disclosure with respect to forward-looking statements. I will then provide an update on our business and current initiatives, and then Tom Houdek will provide some commentary on the quarter and the current environment.

After that, we will open it up to questions. So Rana, please go ahead.

Rana Schirmer — Director of Securities and Exchange Commission Reporting

Thanks, Greg. Our comments on the conference call today will contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause the actual results, performance or achievements of the company to be materially different from any future results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by forward-looking statements. Investors are cautioned that forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and that undue reliance should not be placed on such statements.

Our forward-looking statements speak only as of today’s date, April 21, 2022. We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements or to make any other forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, unless required to do so by the securities laws. Investors are referred to the full discussion of risks and uncertainties associated with forward-looking statements contained in the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Greg?

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Rana. I’m highly encouraged by the recent trends in our business. BJ’s generated record Q1 revenue, beating our previous high set in 2019, even with the significant industrywide impact from the Omicron surge in January. With Omicron in retreat, guest demand and team member staffing levels stabilized in February, and then accelerated in March.

Our team members shined once again, showing they can provide our guests with the gold standard level of service and gracious hospitality in every operating environment. Our average weekly restaurant sales improved from $96,000 in January to $110,000 in February, and $118,000 in March. Compared to 2019, our comparable restaurant sales increased from negative 6.4% in January to negative 0.6% in February, and then to a positive 1.2% in March. Our solid performance continues in April with period-to-date weekly restaurant sales averaging $118,000, which equates to positive mid-single-digit comparable restaurant sales growth from the same period in 2019.

Our restaurant margin also improved throughout the quarter with full quarter restaurant margin meaningfully better than January levels, which were impacted by Omicron. Our top line performance is being driven by improving underlying fundamentals. Staffing continues to be a key driver of sales, and we added hourly team members and further reduced the number of understaffed restaurants throughout the quarter. Due to our improved staffing position and solid guest demand, we began adding back more late-night hours starting in March.

Our restaurant hours of operation are now approximately a half an hour less per day as compared to pre-COVID hours. Moreover, late night comparable sales are now trending positive in April compared to 2019. Next, our team member turnover trends improved in the first quarter as well compared to the last several quarters. Our training and engagement programs designed to retain team members are working and a key part of increasing our staffing and serving more guests.

Finally, our Net Promoter Scores rose in the first quarter and our guest score is higher in Q1 than at any point over the past year and well ahead of our pre-COVID measure in each metric, including overall recommend, value, food, and hospitality. Our unwavering approach to flawless execution continues to be noticed by guests as also evidenced by our traffic trends. While Tom will go into the cost side of the business in more detail, we continue to experience high inflation in Q1. Certain items such as fresh meats are down from their late 2021 highs but remain elevated on a historical basis.

Our food cost had contracts step up at the beginning of 2022. Related to labor costs, market rates continue to tick up, albeit at a slower quarterly sequential increase than the past couple of years. And given our restaffing initiatives, we incurred extra hours on a short-term basis as we invested in training and experienced higher-than-typical overtime due to COVID-related exclusions. To mitigate some of the recent inflation impact, we implemented a round of menu pricing of 1.8% in February, and we’ll take another additional 1.4% in June.

This amount of pricing is still behind current inflationary trends. While sales are improving with guest demand, we still have excess capacity at lunch and other day parts that we can drive guests into our restaurants to leverage the fixed costs in our business to improve margins. That is our No. 1 focus, to improve margins, and that is driving guest traffic.

Therefore, we are carefully balancing and driving traffic with overall pricing to manage margins as sales recover. After seven months as BJ’s CEO, I am confident as ever in BJ’s ability to deliver industry-leading results. Every BJ’s team member from our restaurants to the restaurant support center is committed to growing sales since driving incremental sales is the best way for BJ’s to deliver profitable growth. Recently, we galvanized our team around five key strategic initiatives that offer the best path forward toward meaningful near- and long-term sales growth.

They are serving memorable Brewhouse experiences, craft a people-first hospitality culture, build a large, profitable best-in-class off-premise experience, accelerate restaurant growth and new sales channels, and build a better guest and team member experience through the joy of technology. BJ’s well-defined strategic priorities set a clear vision that our leaders are now embarking on to drive the next phase of our concept’s growth. First, in regards to serving memorable Brewhouse experiences, BJ’s offers a social dining experience in what we refer to as the polished casual space. In our guest research, we consistently hear our restaurants described as an uplifting social oasis with a brewhouse soul.

Guests come to us not only for a meal occasion, but for the full BJ’s hospitality experience which is not available anywhere else. To maintain this high standard of hospitality, we are redoubling our emphasis on high-touch procedures that help build relationships with our guests, so they feel special and appreciated. Our food delivers the comfort of the familiar with a brewhouse twist. We will lean in further to expand our Brewhouse food authority by creating more iconic Brewhouse signature food and drink menu items while elevating our high-quality ingredients and presentation.

We are also evaluating opportunities to take our Brewhouse theater experience to the next level. We are testing new ideas and design features that refresh our existing restaurants and expand capacity to drive even higher sales. We have now completed two pilot remodels, where we added three new large booths for extra seating capacity and new design elements, such as larger TVs to improve the dining room experience. The early results are encouraging, with the sales lift from the additional seating providing a very attractive return.

Second is crafting a people-first hospitality culture. Great experiences start with fantastic people and consistently great experience require a team driven by a higher purpose. That is why every new BJ’s team member across our organization receives a craft card outlining our brand’s core values around connection, respect, advancement, fun and trust. Emphasizing our values shows team members what BJ’s stands for and helps them make the best decisions that align with our vision and goals.

With these core values as our foundation, we consistently evaluate our restaurant operating procedures to ensure we have the best practices in place that showcase our gracious hospitality and gold standard level of service. To help ensure our new hourly team members learn the BJ’s way, we are developing new training programs that provide improved tools to deliver on our high standards of service and hospitality from the very first day. We are leveraging new and best-in-class teaching and development practices to provide our team members with the foundation to execute at exceptional levels while continually building skills that are important for the ability to advance their careers at BJ’s. Third, building a large profitable best-in-class off-premise experience.

In 2021, our average weekly off-premise sales approximately doubled from pre-pandemic levels to more than $20,000 per restaurant, which is where it remains today. This growth highlights shifting guest behavior accelerated by the pandemic as more meals prepared by restaurants were enjoyed in guests’ homes. We expect this trend to continue and are focusing on further innovation around our off-premise guest experience to best position BJ’s to earn an outsized share of this exciting growth opportunity. We continue to explore initiatives to make our off-premise experience more differentiated and optimize all channels, including takeout, curbside pickup, and delivery.

For example, we will soon introduce an advanced order tracker with real-time progress information to complement the text message alerts our guests receive today. We are also improving our printed order labels to include a complete pack list to ensure orders are accurately filled before leaving our restaurants. We aim to superbly execute the basics and reduce friction throughout the guest experience, and we believe the processes we have and continue to implement will help us achieve this goal. We are also very excited about BJ’s opportunity to meaningfully expand our catering business.

We are working aggressively to build this capability, and our early progress on this initiative is encouraging. We plan to continue dedicating appropriate resources to grow our catering business, especially as more workers return to their offices this year. Our vision is to bring the Brewhouse experience to any event on or off-premise and our catering offerings are aligned with this vision. Fourth, accelerating restaurant growth and new sales channels.

Data continues to confirm that BJ’s unique concept can leverage in untapped and underdeveloped markets across the country to support at least 425 BJ’s restaurants nationwide or approximately twice the number of locations we have today. Our recent new restaurant openings are performing ahead of other locations in their markets, which is a healthy indicator for continued profitable expansion. During the first quarter, we restarted our new restaurant development program with the March opening in Charlotte, North Carolina. This was followed by our second 2022 restaurant opening in San Antonio, Texas earlier this week.

We have five additional restaurants currently under construction and plan to break ground on a sixth location by the end of this month. We remain confident in our ability to open as many as eight new restaurants in 2022 and continue building a terrific pipeline to deliver attractive restaurant growth in 2023 and beyond. Going forward, we expect our cash flow, balance sheet and financial flexibility will support our goal of increasing our restaurant base by at least 5% each year. In order to successfully develop and open new restaurants at this rate, we will continue to invest in our teams and our capabilities.

We are also evaluating other sales growth channels such as our BJ’s Brewhouse Beer Club. The early results of our Brewhouse Beer Club are very encouraging with members increasing visits and spend in our restaurants once joining the program. We continue to optimize the program and we’ll evaluate a broader launch for additional states. Fifth is building a better guest and team member experience through the joy of technology.

As an early adopter of value-add guest and team member technology, such as our mobile app to drive e-commerce orders and our server handheld devices to improve operations in our restaurants, our reputation as a technology leader in the industry is well earned. We are committed to a technology at the right time approach that enhances and enables the guest and server experience without detracting from our guests’ overall dining experience. We are refreshing our e-commerce platform, which will provide guests with a new, more modern user experience and more advanced functionality. We also recently moved our guest data to a new platform, allowing us to offer a more personalized and one-to-one approach to digital marketing.

As a result, our targeted messaging now delivers personalized content and dynamic recommendations that have the best potential to drive guest action. We are now able to iteratively enhance each guest interaction based on applied learnings and continue to fine tune the program to accomplish specific goals with every communication and drive higher returns on marketing investment. In summary, we have a comprehensive set of initiatives aimed at significantly increasing our average weekly sales and doubling our restaurant locations. We also have ambitious long-term sales and profit growth targets, including growing BJ’s sales to $2 billion and beyond.

In the meantime, we are incredibly optimistic that guest affinity for our brand and menu offerings, coupled with the trajectory of our business and our current initiatives will enable us to achieve attractive near and mid-term growth objectives. In closing, I would like to express our appreciation and gratitude for each and every one of our team members who remain committed to making BJ’s the gold standard in the casual dining industry. Now, let me turn it over to Tom to provide a more detailed update from the quarter and current trends. Tom?

Tom Houdek — Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Greg, and good afternoon, everyone. I will provide details of the quarter and some forward-looking views. Please remember, this commentary is subject to the risks and uncertainties associated with forward-looking statements as discussed in our filings with the SEC. For the first quarter, we reported total sales of $298.7 million.

Our sales increased approximately 34% versus Q1 of 2021 and 3% versus Q1 of 2019, which makes it our highest Q1 sales ever. On a comparable restaurant basis, sales increased by 34% compared to Q1 2021 and declined by 1.5% compared to Q1 2019. As Greg mentioned, our comparable restaurant sales improved through the quarter and finished with positive comparable restaurant sales in March versus 2019. Deleveraging from early in the quarter — early quarter Omicron sales impact and continued inflationary pressures resulted in restaurant margins of 9.8%, which was in line with our expectations.

Restaurant margins improved sequentially through the quarter as our sales improved. Adjusted EBITDA was $13.2 million and 4.4% of sales in our first quarter, beating Q1 of 2021 EBITDA, but behind Q1 2019 EBITDA. We reported net income of $1.5 million and diluted net income per share of $0.06 on a GAAP basis. Our net income included a $10.2 million income tax benefit, which includes the usual FICA tip credit and applying our estimated annual effective tax rate.

The quarter started with January weekly sales per restaurant averaging $96,000 and comparable sales of 6.4% behind January 2019 levels as the Omicron wave was surging across the country. Encouragingly, our sales accelerated in February as COVID cases declined, and we continue to add restaurant team members. We increased our weekly sales to $110,000 in February, which was within 0.6% of 2019 levels on a comparable restaurant basis. Our sales trends further improved in March with the weekly sales average reaching $118,000, which was 1.2% above 2019 levels.

Moving to expenses. Our cost of sales in the quarter was 27.3% of sales, which was a 10-basis-point improvement from last quarter, but unfavorable to the prior year and to our first quarter of 2019. Food cost inflation was in the high single digits as compared to Q1 of 2021, and up in the low single digits from last quarter. Food cost inflation has slowed modestly with certain meats coming down from their high set last quarter, partially mitigating inflation on other inputs across our commodity basket.

Labor and benefit and expenses at 38.9% of sales in the quarter were unfavorable to the prior year into the first quarter of 2019. As we previously reported, the Omicron surge had a severe impact to our operations in January and early February as we deleveraged, which had a lasting effect across the quarter. We estimate that the Omicron impact weighed on labor and benefits by approximately 100 basis points in the quarter. Also, our training and overtime hours remained elevated in the quarter due to strong hiring and the impact of labor as a percentage of sales by an additional 60 basis points compared to Q1 2019.

We believe the investment we have made in both managers and hourly team members are now driving meaningful sales growth and incremental profit as more guests come to dine at BJ’s. Occupancy and operating expenses at 24% of sales in the quarter were favorable to the prior year, but unfavorable to our first quarter of 2019. Due to the Omicron impact in January, we reduced our marketing spend in the quarter to 1.5% of sales, which remained below pre-COVID levels. We are encouraged by our ability to maintain off-premise sales at approximately double our pre-COVID levels, which results in certain costs such as to-go packaging and third-party delivery commissions remaining higher than the periods with lower off-premise sales.

We also continue to invest in refreshing certain restaurants to like-new first class as we prepare to welcome back more guests into our restaurants. We continue on our mission to identify and implement cost savings across our restaurant operations. Our dual mandate is to find opportunities that save while maintaining our highest standards for our atmosphere, service, and food quality. We are committed to not impacting what makes BJ’s special and keep our best guests coming back time and time again.

G&A for the first quarter was $18.3 million. We had some additional spend related to recruiting in the quarter, as well as a return to more regular business activities and adding resources to prepare for growth. We still expect to ramp up G&A spending as the year progresses and conditions improve, including investments that enable us to increase new restaurant openings and build upon our operating and talent capabilities like resuming in-person operations development meetings, including our career development conference and leadership development conference. I expect full year G&A to be in the $76 million to $77 million area, including an additional $2 million in Q4 as 2022 is a 53-week year.

Turning to the balance sheet. We maintain our debt balance of $50 million and ended the quarter with net debt of about $23 million. We are very pleased with the strength of our balance sheet and will remain consistent in our approach of prioritizing growth-driving investments to build new restaurants, improve our existing restaurants, and fund sales driving initiatives. Given the strong pipeline for a new restaurant, which will result in breaking ground earlier for 2023 restaurants, coupled with some of the early and encouraging results from our remodel initiative, we are now expecting capex to be in the $90 million to $95 million range.

Looking to the second quarter of 2022, we are encouraged by our recent sales trends. Weekly sales have remained in the $118,000 area, and we continue to add hourly team members to our restaurants to unlock even more sales. The second quarter is typically our highest sales quarter, which has the benefit from spring break and big sales weekends for Mother’s Day, Father’s Day, as well as large parties during graduation season. If sales continue on their current trajectory and follow the usual seasonal pattern, weekly restaurant sales should be in the $118,000 to $119,000 area, and we would expect second quarter restaurant margins to be in the 13.5% to 14% range.

Also, we expect an effective tax rate in the 5% to 10% range over the next three quarters of 2022. Finally, I would like to provide an update on the three elements that impacted recent sales, but that we expect to benefit future periods: Restaurant staffing, challenged dayparts and media spend. First, restaurant staffing continues to prove to be the key to unlock higher sales. In the first quarter, restaurants consistent with pre-COVID staffing levels generated at 2.2% of comparable sales versus 2019, which is more than 10 percentage points better than restaurants still in the process of rebuilding their teams.

We continue to add team members each week, enabling more sales growth. Next, in terms of day parts, lunch and late night remained the most impacted in Q1, which weighed on our three-year comp by more than 4 percentage points combined in the quarter. In early Q2, both day parts are delivering encouraging top line trends with lunch returning to approximately flat and late night now with positive comparable restaurant sales versus 2019. Our new lunch value menu continues to add weekday traffic and late night has benefited from us adding back more late-night hours starting in March as our staffing levels have improved.

Finally, media spend. In Q1 2019, we spent 40% more in media dollars promoting BJ’s brand across channels, including television, when comparing to our Q1 2022 spend levels. Making the conservative assumption that our media investment just broke — breakeven, the incremental media spend in our 2029 base sales translated to more than 80 basis points of three-year comp headwind in the first quarter. With a more stable operating environment and improved staffing levels, we recently returned to a larger scale advertising campaign in our top markets.

We are targeting investing approximately 2% of sales in the second quarter to increase brand awareness and drive additional traffic to our restaurants, which is incorporated in the Q2 margin expectations I provided earlier. We expect each of these factors to contribute to tailwinds in the second quarter and beyond and help drive incremental sales and higher sales lead to higher restaurant margins. In summary, we know the best way to grow margins and profit is to grow sales. Recent sales trends have been encouraging, and we remain committed to being sales drivers, first and foremost.

At the same time, we have elevated productivity and cost savings through our Project Q initiatives. We have a clear path to sales growth and margin recovery, and our long-term strategy remains intact. We have seen new challenges emerge throughout the pandemic, and we continue to meet the challenges head on, manage our business for both near and long-term objectives and remain steadfast in our focus on providing our guests with the best experience which will allow us to continue delivering outsized growth in the years to come. Thank you for your time today, and we’ll now open the call to your questions.

Operator?

Questions & Answers:

Operator

[Operator instructions] We’ll take our first question from Alex Slagle with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Alex Slagle — Jefferies — Analyst

Thanks. Good afternoon. Had a question on the quarter to date same-store sales and average weekly sales. Just trying to think is that all apples to apples in terms of the calendar and promotions, or anything to call out on the comp versus ’19?

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Alex, it’s Greg Levin. Yes, it is Easter. When we looked at the numbers and what we’re talking about here in that, $118,000 we’re in kind of the mid-single-digit comps, we’re still comparing it to 2019 being kind of the last time to compare it to.

And back in 2019, Easter lined up the same weekend as this past weekend, so everything from an apples-to-apples perspective seems pretty much in line.

Alex Slagle — Jefferies — Analyst

Great. And just consumer spending habits and overall health. I mean just get an idea of what you’re seeing, if there’s anything in your data or anecdotal observations on consumer spending dynamics or health or any demographics, any kind of shifts you’re seeing just given the inflation headwinds? I mean it looks — sounds pretty strong, but just curious if you have any other comments.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, I’ll add some color to it, and I don’t know if Tom will have something to add too as well. But I think what we’re seeing is, and we mentioned a little bit on the formal remarks, and that is our lunch specials are working really well with our guests, and that is the value play there. The ability to get full-service sit-down chicken parm for $10, and here in California for $11 in a higher-cost area tends to be a great value. And we’re seeing that improvement in that lunch day part.

It’s still a softer day part for us, though, overall, and that’s where I think we can continue to lean into that and drive the excess capacity in that business. We have tended to continue to see increase in incident rates, thinking about kind of from a pre-COVID standpoint. So guests are still ordering more items in that regard. And we did mention the late night seems to be coming back.

So people are feeling more comfortable getting out from a late-night perspective. Other than that, from our mix, it’s been pretty consistent. I don’t know if there’s anything to add to that, Tom.

Tom Houdek — Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. I would say the — in terms of the overall business, it’s great to have the everyday value across our menu, but we also have very sharp price points at Happy Hour and daily Brewhouse specials. So the guests that are the most price sensitive can come in at any time. But we haven’t seen any shifts in mix in the business really.

And in terms of pricing, when we go through these pricing rounds, we’ll measure to see what the flow-through is and if we’ve seen any trade between products. And really, we haven’t seen any shift there as well. So we haven’t seen anything of concern. It really is — it seems to be still a very healthy consumer.

Alex Slagle — Jefferies — Analyst

Thanks. And a follow-up on the overtime and training, how much of a headwind do you expect that to continue? I’m just trying to think about 2Q, is that starting to come off, or is that headwind expected to continue that you talked about on the margin?

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. I would say in the second half, we should see that improving. And I think it’s a gradual improvement as staffing improves. You hire less, you have better staffing and overtime goes down.

So I would say in the second half, we should see that adding more of a tailwind than it is right now.

Alex Slagle — Jefferies — Analyst

All right. Thank you very much.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

Operator

We’ll take our next question from David Tarantino with Baird. Please go ahead.

David Tarantino — Robert W. Baird and Company — Analyst

Hi. Good afternoon. My question is on the margins. First, I wanted to ask, on the Q2 outlook, is that a good run rate to think about on an underlying basis, or are there some factors in there that you would consider temporary that are suppressing the margin? And then I have a second question maybe about the longer-term outlook.

But I guess, how should we think about the current run rate on margins versus what you think is normalized?

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. David, this is Greg. And I think that’s a reasonable run rate in the margins as of today and still assuming that there’s going to be inflationary pressures coming on there. The second part of that question is really — or part of that question comes down to is where you, from a modeling or even us internally start thinking about where our sales trends go.

Because we’re still not fully back to where we want to be in the dining room, and that’s our opportunity and that leverages the rest of the business going forward. As we just put up this quarter here, we still saw cost of sales in the 27% range. And I do believe when you think about the business longer term, the goal is for that to start to move itself down, that will be both a little bit of pricing as we continue to develop new menu items around the core of the Brewhouse menu. And then, over time, we’ll also start to leverage more on the labor.

So when I think about that business — or I think about the margins, I should say, I don’t see any reason why, over time, our margins don’t continue to accelerate back into the mid-teens and get back to historic numbers over time. This year, I think, it’s still going to be, as Tom was touching upon, still going to be some training as much as it comes out in the second half of the year. I still think we’re going to see some inflationary pressures going on in commodities and so forth. And we’re purposely underpricing maybe compared to our peers, only taking 1.8% and coming up here at 1.4%.

Those are pretty low numbers because I just think we have enough excess capacity in our business that we can drive guests into the unique dining experience that BJ’s is. And we’ve definitely seen guests want a place to have a social experience. And I’d rather use that, get the guests in and drive leverage over those fixed costs versus trying to just completely lean into pricing. I don’t think that’s the right approach.

David Tarantino — Robert W. Baird and Company — Analyst

Yes. Great. That’s helpful. That essentially answered the second part of what I was going to ask about.

But with respect to traffic, could you give us a sense of how much traffic in April is down versus, I guess, the pre-COVID levels, or I guess, versus 2019? And I’m talking specifically about the in-restaurant transactions, just to kind of frame up what the opportunity might be if you recapture all of those transactions?

Tom Houdek — Chief Financial Officer

Sure. So looking at just April here, our traffic versus 2019 just dine-in is still down in the 10% to 20% range. So there’s still a meaningful amount of dining, of traffic capacity in our restaurants that we can add back. The sales levels that we talked about, I mean, the benefit of the off-premise being double where we were, it’s great because that pushes us to the comp positive position.

But as we really see the opportunity of getting more staffing in our restaurants and being able to serve more guests, there’s a big opportunity to grow that traffic back over time.

David Tarantino — Robert W. Baird and Company — Analyst

Great. And last question, I promise. On the margin outlook, Greg, that you just mentioned, is it recapturing all of that traffic necessary to get the margins back to the mid-teens over time? I know there are several puts and takes, but is that how you’re thinking about it?

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Not entirely, no. Because as much as we, right now, are taking a very measured approach in regards to inflation, there will be additional pricing. We’re just — everybody is going to have to do it to offset some of that. So as that additional pricing over time comes in, that’s going to be part of it.

And then, just the fact that we do have the strong off-premise sales and holding on to that off-premise sales, you don’t really need to get all that dine-in traffic back to start to move your margins closer to maybe some historical run rates.

David Tarantino — Robert W. Baird and Company — Analyst

Perfect. Thank you. That’s very helpful.

Operator

We’ll take our next question from Joshua Long with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Joshua Long — Piper Sandler — Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my question. And thanks for the commentary around the day part trends. It was very helpful.

I was curious if you’re seeing similar trends across regions. So maybe is West Coast, which had been hurt a little bit longer in terms of that late night and some of the return to office pieces, if that had bounced back more, or just what you’re seeing across geographies as added the context to the day part trends that we talked about?

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. I’ll give you a top level — and Tom, chime in here. But in general, Josh, everything has moved in the right direction across our business, meaning all geographic areas have been improving period over period from that perspective. I would still tend to say that the Bay Area is still softer, but it’s moving in the right direction, which obviously we like.

We talked about the fact that late night moving in the positive direction and lunch has improved. So when you look at the business overall, and you look at both geography and day parts, they’re moving in the right direction. But I think as Tom just said there and I’ve emphasized as well, there’s still a lot of opportunity to drive this dine-in traffic, and frankly, still to drive off-premise. We should be getting all-premise higher than where we are today.

So we like that opportunity that we have in front of us. And when I talk about that opportunity, that opportunity is around transactions. It’s not guest traffic coming in versus driving the higher sales purely on menu pricing.

Joshua Long — Piper Sandler — Analyst

Got it. That’s helpful, particularly in terms of the day part piece. When we think about some of the remodels that you have lined up, it sounds like those are initially still early on, but initially doing pretty well. Curious if you could kind of frame up how you’re thinking about that, having a couple on your belt now in terms of being able to roll those out and at what speed or cadence the next grouping of those would it entail?

Tom Houdek — Chief Financial Officer

Sure. So the two that we’ve opened, there’s a model of our restaurants that’s about somewhere in the quarter, two-third of our restaurants that had some unused space that we can rebuild and turn into three large booths. And when we look at where we have the most capacity constraints or we run weights at dinner time, the extra sales that we’re driving, again, early data here, but we’re seeing up to 1,000 or 2,000 more of sales per week. So the early data that we’re seeing out of these restaurants is encouraging.

Where we need to — we’re still thinking through what the schedule and rollout looks like. And we also have some other thoughts of ways to remodel different areas of our restaurants as well. So early days of the remodel initiative, but from, again, very early results here, we’re encouraged by what we see and definitely think that when we pencil out what the cost is versus what the upside could be, there’s some really great returns here. So we’re excited about what this could look like.

Joshua Long — Piper Sandler — Analyst

Got it. I’ll follow along as well and see how that progresses. One last one for me. In terms of thinking about the comp for the quarter and within the context of the menu price windows that Greg talked about taking, how much effective price was going in or was in place during the quarter? And just trying to create a base for some of those next windows that Greg outlined.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. I don’t have it specifically here, but we generally roll out our menus in kind of January, June, kind of September, October. Those are kind of the windows. So after we kind of roll through this June one, September will be the next time that we would take menu pricing.

I want to say, overall, our many pricing somewhere is around the 5% range right now. But I tend to — even as we look at that, the inflation really that everybody’s experienced started pretty heavy in Q3 and four of last year, and obviously, into Q1 that everybody is currently facing. In that time frame, our pricing has been a little bit less, more in the kind of 1.5% to 2% range at different times. So as we started to face this inflection of higher pricing, I think that’s where we’ve kind of taking our pedal off the gas a little bit on overall pricing as we continue to build the business forward.

But I want to say we’re all in looking at back to the Q1 and two of last year, it’s probably around 5% or so.

Joshua Long — Piper Sandler — Analyst

Got it. And for 1Q, and then maybe to your commentary there, just some level of obviously, awareness, the sensitivity around managing that price. So when you layer on the incremental 1.5% to 2%, does that get you meaningfully into that mid-single digit — mid to high single-digit range from a pricing perspective, or as we take in those pieces that roll off on a year-over-year basis, does that keep you more or less in that mid-single-digit range?

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. That’s the latter there. As we roll over from a year ago, we’ll actually be maybe even a little bit less on pricing because I think maybe Q1, Q2 might be a little bit more 2021. So it will still be in that kind of 4% to 5% in total as kind of the constant pricing.

Joshua Long — Piper Sandler — Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

We’ll take our next question from Brian Mullan with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Brian Mullan — Deutsche Bank — Analyst

Thank you. Just a question on staffing. It sounds as though things have gotten much better of late that has helped drive the recent sales recovery, but also that you’re still adding employees even now. So just a clarification question, is staffing still an issue that is holding back sales at certain restaurants here in April, or have you now kind of officially moved past that point on staffing?

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

There’re pockets, Brian. I want to say there might be a handful of restaurants are a little bit more where the staffing levels are still below where we’d like them to be and that inhibits sales, so we still have that in certain areas. The other thing that plays into this as well is your staffing levels might feel pretty good when we look at them on a piece of paper, but we still end up with callouts and other issues, just whether it’s COVID or something else that plays into it, that will impact sales for that day or for a couple of days. So staffing is not where it was in ’17, ’18 or ’19 from that perspective.

But if I had to think about looking back on the last year plus 15 months or so, we’re in a much healthier place today than where we’ve been over that time frame.

Brian Mullan — Deutsche Bank — Analyst

OK. Thanks. And then, as a follow-up, in the prepared remarks, you indicated again, looking at ways to mitigate costs across the organization. Just trying to get a sense if there’s something unique you’d call out that you plan to do at the restaurant level, or is this more of kind of a corporate G&A opportunity actions that you have in mind? Just any color.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. I’m going to hold off on the color there because, frankly, we’re testing a bunch of different things, and we don’t know what’s going to work or not work. At the end of the day, we want to take care of our guests first and foremost. So we’re not looking and saying, OK, maybe we eliminate server assistance, and therefore, we don’t have that position, or we take servers to seven or eight tables.

We know the reason that guests come to us is because of our people and taking care of them in our restaurants, and we want to make sure that our high touch points stay there. What we wanted to continue to do is look at areas in regards to consumables, some of the operating expenditure costs and see if there’s other things that we can do that will help reduce costs or — and continue to keep the kind of the uniqueness in the posh casual look that we have at BJ’s. The challenge is, frankly, the macro world continues to make it more difficult. At times when supply chains seem like they were getting better, things in the macro made it a little bit more difficult.

Again, with maybe things being shut down in China in regards to some of our consumables. The supply chains have gotten longer where I want to say in February time frame, and we were able to start seeing a little bit more normalization of supply chains and allowing us to do some reverse auctions. But we’ve got a lot of different things going on from a test standpoint. When those work, and we don’t see any pushback from our guests and it continues to make BJ’s stand out and be differentiated, we’ll discuss those.

The thing that I’m trying to make sure we at BJ’s, and we talked about this as our executive team, we are not going to get succumbed by the term skimpflation out there. We’re not going to all of a sudden raise prices and give our guests less. And so, things we’ve done already this year, like we’ve increased our chicken sandwich from a four ounce to a six-ounce chicken breast. We’ve increased the amount of portion we have in our chicken alfredo.

There’s just too many other businesses out there that want to raise prices and take away things. And while that might make us feel good for a quarter, it’s not how you build the business for the long term. And so, everything we want to look at comes to the point that we’re still giving the guest a unique and better dining experience than our peers.

Brian Mullan — Deutsche Bank — Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

We’ll take our next question from Jeffrey Bernstein with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Jeffrey Bernstein — Barclays — Analyst

Great. Thank you very much. Two questions. One, I just wanted to talk a little bit more, Greg, about the unit side of things.

I know you’ve often said quality over quantity. But it does sound like you found a way, or you feel an increasing confidence in accelerating that new unit growth from what might be a 4% today to 5%, 6%, 7% future years. So I’m just wondering if you can give a little more color on that. And whether we’re talking about new versus existing markets? Any kind of color on that acceleration in the unit openings would be great.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Jeff, great question. First, even taking a step back here, our restaurants in our portfolio has always been very strong. And I know we’ve accelerated over the times I’ve been here and then pulled back on other initiatives as we built the company over time. So there’s never been a concern that a portfolio of classes didn’t work, or markets didn’t work for us from that perspective.

So as I’ve taken on this role and seen just a history of good restaurants that continued to work for BJ’s, I thought it was important that we get consistent in regards to our cadence of growing our business. And you did make the right comment that we’ve always used, and that is it’s going to be quality over quantity. So even as we look out and trying to get at above 5% to 6% and 7%, we want to make sure that we’re doing it at the point that we can execute with really, really good quality. That high weekly sales average is so important to our business to drive margins and continue driving a high ROI, and you do that with great people.

So we’re going to always continue to make sure that it’s done at the right cadence that we can execute and not get ahead of our ski tips. And I do feel good that as we build this year, back those regional training teams that need to be built, we need to rebuild our supply chain team, which is more difficult today than any time in the past because opening up a new restaurant takes a little bit of a different supply chain scale. And then, as Greg Lynds, who’s here with me, continues to build out his team in regards to being able to open restaurants consistently that we do that this year, and that’s part of that G&A investment that will allow us to accelerate restaurant growth next year. And again, I want to get above the 4%.

I think we can do that at BJ’s in the 5%, 6%, 7% range. In regards to locations, and I’ll let Greg Lynds, he’s the expert, to talk to it. But right now, we do have a lot of the ability to go into some of our existing restaurants, which I really like. I don’t know how much of it’s kind of new properties versus repurpose.

And maybe you want to talk about that more of a macro, Greg?

Greg Lynds — Chief Development Officer

Yes. So thanks for the question, Jeff. With only 213 restaurants today in 29 states, you think about Olive Garden with 800-plus, Texas Roadhouse with 600-plus, we have plenty of room within our 29 states or adjacent states to really keep our expansion within our existing markets and where we can leverage our supply chain, our supervision, our brand awareness, and that’s our goal certainly for the next two years. But we’re excited about the opportunity to not only expand in our existing markets, but also take on a few new markets as we grow in the coming years.

Jeffrey Bernstein — Barclays — Analyst

Understood. And then, just following up, Greg, you mentioned longer-term targets that sales $2 billion-plus, which accumulated the 400 units of the volumes you’re doing. But I know you mentioned that you have a variety of internal targets. I was wondering whether you’d share any incremental color on I think you said margins over time getting back into the mid-teens, kind of what all that translates to, if we go out over the next few years from an earnings perspective? Any kind of color you can give on that longer-term algorithm beyond just the top line sales?

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Jeff, we’re still working through some of the details there and want to plan to present that to the investment community in the near future here. Generally speaking, from a very simple cadence, we’ve talked about this before, and that is getting that unit growth up to five-plus percent, driving mid-single-digit comp sales starts to get your revenue getting close to kind of 10% range. And then, we have to leverage the middle of the P&L and drive earnings above the 10%. Also, at that time, we should be generating some significant free cash flow and using that also to augment shareholder returns.

That’s the kind of algorithm that we’re looking at in our business. And again, it all starts with driving the weekly sales average because that’s going to allow us to continue to leverage the middle of the P&L to get that earnings above. And that’s kind of our view there. And look, between all of us on the call, we hope to get to $2 billion in sales with less than 425 restaurants.

That’s our goal. We’re not just wanting to get there by a double of the BJ’s restaurants. We want to grow that weekly sales average up, and I think we have a good opportunity in off-premise. And I think we still have a good opportunity in the dining room because even what we’re doing today, as Tom mentioned earlier, we’re still seeing negative traffic in the dining room, so I like the opportunities in front of us.

Jeffrey Bernstein — Barclays — Analyst

Understood. And also, to just confirm, I know you said 13.5% to 14% in the second quarter, and that was a good run rate for the back half of the year. What is it incorporating in terms of commodity and labor inflation as we look out over the next few quarters? Like what visibility do you have on either those, or what’s the assumption baked into that 13.5% to 14%?

Tom Houdek — Chief Financial Officer

Sure. So in terms of the commodity inflation, it’s similar to what we’re seeing right now. We’re seeing, versus last year, up kind of in the high single digits. On the labor side, it is sequentially still going up kind of more in the low single digits, so that’s baked into the margin assumptions that we provided.

Jeffrey Bernstein — Barclays — Analyst

Understood. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. We’ll take our next question from Todd Brooks with The Benchmark Company. Please go ahead.

Todd Brooks — The Benchmark Company — Analyst

Thanks for taking my question. First, if we look back, I think, $118,000 a week in April, if you look back to — I’m just wondering typical seasonality in this quarter because you do have big events coming up with Mother’s Day, Father’s Day, graduation. If you go back to that pre-pandemic kind of Q2 of ’19, how did April rank relative to May and June, and how the quarter progressed from an average weekly sales standpoint?

Tom Houdek — Chief Financial Officer

Sure. So April, it was slightly less than in May and June. You see some nice levels still because of spring break. So it sits a little less than May and June, but not much.

But you do see some pickup into May and June, and that’s really driven by those big weekends, really that Mother’s Day and Father’s Day weekend as we see the big increases.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. It’s surprisingly consistent, Todd, which I know it sounds — it doesn’t, in one sense makes sense, I guess. But what ends up happening is April gets a pretty decent spring break number. So it brings up your weekly sales average pretty high.

And then, as you get into May and June, you get kind of peaks and valleys. You get a Mother’s Day that drives that number up a lot. You get a Father’s Day that drives that number up a lot and then some graduations here or there. So it’s kind of peaks and valleys, but it’s surprising.

April is not that much of a low watermark versus May and June, they’re all relatively consistent. And I think we did $113,000-or-so in 2019. And the delta between the $113,000, meaning between like a May and June and an April is pretty much the same, pretty consistent.

Todd Brooks — The Benchmark Company — Analyst

OK, great. And then, how do you feel about the staffing levels to handle these peak events with Mother’s Day, Father’s Day? Are you — I know it sounds like staffing has healed quite a bit, but when you get to peak kind of weeks like that, are you equipped to fully kind of take advantage of the opportunity at this point?

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

That’s a great question. And we were able to do it on Valentine’s Day in February, which is a tough day in of itself. And then, we’ve seen it on a couple of other days as well where we’ve broken some sales records here in Q1. And thankfully, we’ve got great managers in our restaurants that get prepared for that.

We’ll end up doing other sales-driving initiatives and staffing initiatives that we’ve done around the other holidays. But we’re always thinking about our staffing levels and making sure we have the right team members in our restaurants that can deliver gracious hospitality, take care of our guests and make sure our managers take care of our team members. Because ultimately, if we had that right culture in the restaurant, we’ll have the great staffing, and we’ll be able to take care of our guests come these bigger celebratory events.

Todd Brooks — The Benchmark Company — Analyst

That’s great. Thanks, Greg. And then, March was in that $118,000 average weekly sales range. Can you maybe kind of try and take some of the noise out from early in the quarter when the Omicron hit the margins? Did March margins kind of match up with that 13.5%, 14% restaurant level that you’re guiding to? Is there some other improvement that needs to happen expense-wise in Q2 versus how you were exiting Q1 to hit the margin target?

Tom Houdek — Chief Financial Officer

Yes. I would say the margins were in that area. We will be taking some pricing in June, so we’ll see a little bit of that benefit in the back end of the quarter in Q2. But yes, for the most part, you’re thinking about it right.

Todd Brooks — The Benchmark Company — Analyst

OK, great. And the final one for me, this is just a follow-up from David’s question earlier. I know you say you don’t need to get dine-in volumes back to historic levels to get to the margin targets. But I’m just wondering if you’re seeing anything, or looking at the competitive environment, do you have any reason not to believe that you’re going to get the dine-in volumes back given just the number of kind of competitive closures in the category? And scaled brands getting stronger over the course of the pandemic? Thanks.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

No. I don’t see any reason why we wouldn’t get our dining room back. The trend toward historical dining patterns seems to be playing out. And I know everybody wants it to happen yesterday and so forth, but as we look at our business and people get more comfortable going out, we, all of a sudden, see late night now in a positive comparable restaurant perspective.

I don’t believe there is any issues there. I still think, as Tom mentioned a little bit earlier, and we’re getting there and you talked to it as well, Todd, it is about making sure you’ve got the staffing to be able to handle it. And while staffing is not like it’s been in the past, the more people we have and the better people we have, the more people we can take into our restaurants. So we want to continue working on that staffing.

And then, we’ll continue always working on ways to drive efficiencies on there. While we didn’t talk about it specifically, and I forget the exact amount, but things like mobile pay or using the QR to pay, like, those are turning out to be fairly sticky in our restaurants. They’re not at the levels they were in the pandemic when everything was touchless per se, but there’s little things like that that can make it faster on the guests, to make it better on the guests from an experience standpoint and make it easier for us from a team member perspective and be able to, therefore, turn those tables quicker. So we want to continue working on those areas kind of at the shoulders of the guest dining experience to be faster and more productive in our restaurants.

But getting back to your original question, I don’t see any reason why our traffic patterns wouldn’t return to where they were pre-COVID.

Todd Brooks — The Benchmark Company — Analyst

OK, great. Thanks, Greg.

Operator

We’ll take our next question from Jon Tower with Citi. Please go ahead.

Jon Tower — Citi — Analyst

Awesome. Thanks for making the time. Just a quick clarification first, if I may. On the commodity inflation guidance for the year, I think you said up high single digit now.

And I think you suggested that was going to persist for the year. But how should we think about that in terms of — as you start lapping some of the higher prices in the second half of ’22, are you still thinking that it’s going to be high single-digit year-over-year inflation at that point in time, or is it going to be more like flat on a two-year?

Tom Houdek — Chief Financial Officer

It will be at that point and later in the year — so when I was responding, I was talking specifically about Q2. When we get to later in the year, we should see that flatten out a little more. So if we think about year-over-year inflation, we’ll see high single digits or we’re expecting high single digits for the next quarter. It should still be probably in the mid-single digits to maybe even slightly above that in the back half, but it does come down a little as we start lapping the higher inflation in the back half of ’21.

Jon Tower — Citi — Analyst

Got it. That makes sense. And then, I love the comment, the term skimpflation, Greg, that you had mentioned on the call. And I’m just curious, are you seeing that, No.

1, today from any of your chain competitors or any of the independents in the markets where you traffic? And then kind of following up to the pricing question earlier, like can you get into what drives your decision around the incremental pricing that you are taking in terms of, is it something using your past history and saying, look, we take above this level even in the inflation backdrop that we have today, which is kind of unprecedented. We see some sort of resistance at a certain dollar level or a certain inflation level relative to the rest of the industry? And just trying to get a handle on how you guys think about pricing.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Jon, there is definitely science in there. There’s also some part in there that we look at. We, and historically, over the last couple of years, have had groups of restaurants that you hold out to see that when you do take pricing and you compare it to the holdout group, what happens to the menu mix and what happens to those certain menu items. So we do tend to look at that.

And then, frankly, we look across the board at where we’re priced in certain category items and make sure that we’re competitive or that maybe we’re below them. So it’s a little bit of everything. There’s also, as we’ve done a lot of consumer research over the last year, we know the reason that guests come to BJ’s and where they are from a price sensitivity. So we look at all of those in there from that perspective.

I can’t specifically — I’m going to your other part of your question. I can’t specifically say if I have seen skimpflation in any of our peer restaurant companies. I know restaurant companies that have talked about it, whether it’s less wings being offered or something else on their appetizer. I thought in The Great Recession, a lot of companies try to do less for less and it didn’t work in that regards because guests are used to getting a certain amount for a certain price point.

I know when I travel and you think about going into hotels and used to having service and so forth, you don’t have any more which you pay for a higher price. I know traveling on airplanes, I no longer get certain services and I’m paying higher for the tickets. I get all of that that’s going on out there, and that’s where I see this skimpflation. And I think we have this ability with excess capacity in our restaurants to drive traffic.

And traffic always has less of a flow-through than pricing does but driving traffic into our restaurants still has flow-through and it still leverages our business. And I think it’s the approach that we’re going to lean into right now. But we’re not saying we’re not going to take pricing. As we mentioned, we do have 1.4% coming here in June, and we’ll continue to evaluate that and where commodities go.

But we want to make sure that we’re providing what I call price affordability on our menu. Not just what people want to consider value being everything, but I want to make sure that there’s price affordability in that value equation as well.

Jon Tower — Citi — Analyst

Got it. And then, it’s nice to see that your numbers for unit growth are stepping up this year, and the confidence in that persisting into the future sounds great. I’m curious, like, are you seeing anything in the environment change that’s boosting your confidence, specifically, site availability picking up, or are landlords calling you more frequently than they were previously?

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

I’ll let Greg Lynds handle this. But the one thing I would say, and I kind of tried to say this a little bit earlier as well is, we’ve always opened up really good sites. So I’ve always felt comfortable and confident in our ability to pick great sites and build BJ’s restaurants. In regards to the pipeline, I guess, Greg Lynds, have you seen any changes from landlords, or?

Greg Lynds — Chief Development Officer

Yes. I mean, over the years, really, and I’ve said this before on these calls is that the AAA sites, there’s always a lot of demand for those sites. So the B sites, we are seeing more, what I would call, B sites from availability, where landlords are offering more TIs and are being more flexible. But in terms of just overall site availability for BJ’s, I would say we’re pretty consistent with where we were, maybe even in 2019.

However, we are seeing more, if you will, either restaurants or retailers that have gone vacant that require a complete redevelopment. We are seeing more of that coming our way, and we are anticipating that as we go forward as well.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. It’s almost all repurposed. Either restaurants or other —

Greg Lynds — Chief Development Officer

Retailers.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, retailers are being repurposed.

Greg Lynds — Chief Development Officer

And not many major mall developments, right, if any, very few. And the ones that we are seeing are more mixed use with some type of apartments on top and residential involved.

Jon Tower — Citi — Analyst

Got it. And just last one for me for now. In terms of thinking about the labor spend versus 2019, can you talk about how much more you’re spending now per employee in total versus those levels? Are you up 5%, 10%? Just curious.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

No, I don’t have this in front of me, but if I think if you go back to ’19, hourly wages are up in the 20%, 25% range. And some of that is the fact that we’re in California, and California had $1 step up every single year until this last year. So we probably might have a higher labor quotient than maybe somebody else. But I want to say it’s in the 20%, 25% range if you compared to ’19.

Tom Houdek — Chief Financial Officer

Yes, that’s fair. And in terms of hourly labor, we were in the mid-10s at the beginning of 2019, and now, we’re in the 13 area. So it’s, yeah, 25%-or-so just in terms of dollar per hour.

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Not including tips. With tips, our team member are in $20.

Jon Tower — Citi — Analyst

Got it. I will stop there. Thanks for making the time.

Operator

We’ll take our last question from Nick Setyan with Wedbush Securities. Please go ahead.

Nick Setyan — Wedbush Securities — Analyst

Thank you. Just a couple. First, just to clarify, did you guys say that you’re comfortable with the 13.5% to 14% margin range in Q3 and Q4?

Tom Houdek — Chief Financial Officer

So that was our Q2 range. Seasonally, we do see our sales decline a little in Q3 and then pick back up in Q4. So I’d expect the margins to work similarly with a little deleverage and then a little more leverage, so there will be some. Again, the top line will drive it at the end of the day in terms of what we can leverage on the labor and other fixed cost lines.

So that was purely about Q2, but if sales are still in the same, let’s say, comp versus ’19 level, it should dip a little bit into Q3. But we’ll see at the end of — when we talk next where we are in terms of sales, and we’ll give more guidance then.

Nick Setyan — Wedbush Securities — Analyst

OK. And then, transactions in the dining room is still down sort of 10% to 20% with, I think, what you caught with the commentary was. I guess what is the guiding factor there, right? I mean, is it staffing? Is it just the day part? Is it geography? Is it exposure in Northern California? Because I mean that’s trailing a little bit, right, the peer set. So I guess, internally, when you guys kind of look at the dining rooms and where transactions are within the dining rooms now, how do you think about that discrepancy versus the peer set?

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Nick, believe it or not, without us getting into all the specifics, we’re able to pull over Black Box dine-in traffic trends and sales trends. And we, because of our large sales and where our off-premise is, that’s why I think there’s an ability to still grow off-premise more, if you pull that out and just look at dine-in, we’re actually, in the last two periods, beating Black Box sales on a dine-in basis. So I think what’s happening in the industry right now, and I think this is good for the industry, by the way, people get the off-premise sales, which helps grow their comps. As with the 100,000 WSA to begin with, when we get a 10,000 increase in our off-premise and somebody else gets 6,000 or 7,000 increase in off-premise, it doesn’t have the same type of impact because we’re starting to just add a higher sales number.

So I think the entire industry is still seeing, I guess I’m getting at softness in the dining room, even though it’s slowly coming back. And when we look at it, there are still certain geographies in there, as we mentioned, that are slower to come back, some is still staffing levels, some is still office levels in there. So it’s a little bit still in that lunch time frame. Frankly, as strong as dinner is, I think there’s an opportunity to drive more traffic at the dinner side.

And then, it tends to be a little bit more geography. I think where we’ve got pretty well-known brand awareness, we’re driving better sales from that perspective versus maybe some of the other smaller markets.

Nick Setyan — Wedbush Securities — Analyst

OK. Thank you very much.

Operator

[Operator signoff]

Duration: 69 minutes

Call participants:

Greg Levin — President and Chief Executive Officer

Rana Schirmer — Director of Securities and Exchange Commission Reporting

Tom Houdek — Chief Financial Officer

Alex Slagle — Jefferies — Analyst

David Tarantino — Robert W. Baird and Company — Analyst

Joshua Long — Piper Sandler — Analyst

Brian Mullan — Deutsche Bank — Analyst

Jeffrey Bernstein — Barclays — Analyst

Greg Lynds — Chief Development Officer

Todd Brooks — The Benchmark Company — Analyst

Jon Tower — Citi — Analyst

Nick Setyan — Wedbush Securities — Analyst

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